Yoga Parole

21 Jul

“He leído mucho del tema y por eso envío el comentario, para que quienes quieran hacerlo se documenten mejor. debemos decidir con plena conciencia a que seres alabamos.La finalidad del yoga no es ni el bienestar o control físico[exclusivamente], sino la iluminación “apertura del tercer ojo” posiciones y mantras invocan sus dioses[Que bello suena,y no hago uso del sarcasmo. ¿Tal vez mi línea de comunicación este rota? O será que no me he dado cuenta?]. El yoga puede ser instrumento válido para el hindú [extiendo a:toda persona en una búsqueda espiritual]pero no puede convertirse en una “arma” [De verdad me intriga mucho saber que te lleva a decir esto, que descubriste en tus lecturas o que viste/ viviste]de manipulaciòn masiva [será que ¿cayó en la cuenta de que manipuld@s, somos tod@s?/estamos inexorablemente atadxs a un espacio socio-tempo-cultural]mas peligrosa que la espada de los católicos[Me referí más a todas las grandes religiones, pero bueno…Igualmente pensé más en la historia reciente:Rwanda – Extremismo Islámico, Tibet]. Cuidemos los niños. SI”//

guiándome por las migajas publicadas sobre los estudios que hace unos años rotaron sobre el beneficio de la meditación, una respiración profunda – mejorías en el sistema inmune…

Debo reconocer que mis lazos con el yoga parten desde la subjetividad de practicarla y experimentar sus beneficios a pesar de mi accidentado ateísmo.

y tienen que ver más con sus beneficios a nivel “psíquico-inmunitario” (salud de la mente, como cuerpo etéreo y estructura)/  – tengo cierta fascinación por los temas esotéricos que se manejan dentro del yoga/ en su momento me satisfizo sólo el ir/

Encontré tenáz lo de la vaca en bikini, por las derivaciones que se puede hacer de ello/ antes me encuentro agradecida por que de no ser por ti aún seguiría bajo la impresión de que el yoga es una practica meditativa orientada al descubrimiento interior y con su practica continua el dominio./ hace uso de una iconografía como cualquier otra religión, hace uso de símbolos para identificarse/

  • solo formas de maqnipulacion mental. cuidado con nuestros niños en especial con lo que esta detras. las religiones que creen en Hare Krishna

    mrosal25 2 weeks ago

  • A excepción de lo de la vaca, realmente no veo la “manipulación mental”. Ayudar a que l@s niñ@s se relajen y experimenten otros de los beneficios que la meditación trae a sus vidas, lo considero parte del cuidado básico que les debemos. Ahora el movimiento ISKCON (pues Hare Krishna solo, es un mantra) como todas las religiones/ movimientos deben ser asumidos con prudencia, con conocimiento de su historia y postulados, pues muchas han hecho correr odio y sangre en pro de sus intereses e ideales.

    BogotaShopping in reply to mrosal25 4 days ago

  • He leído mucho del tema y por eso envío el comentario, para que quienes quieran hacerlo se documenten mejor. debemos decidir con plena conciencia a que seres alabamos.La finalidad del yoga no es ni el bienestar o control físico, sino la iluminación “apertura del tercer ojo” posiciones y mantras invocan sus dioses. El yoga puede ser instrumento válido para el hindú pero no puede convertirse en una “arma” de manipulaciòn masiva mas peligrosa que la espada de los católicos. Cuidemos los niños. SI

    mrosal25 in reply to BogotaShopping 4 days ago

  • Debo reconocer que yo en cambio partí desde la subjetividad de mi experiencia, mi accidentado ateísmo y las migajas de información que hace unos años rotaron sobre sus beneficios a nivel psíquico-inmunitario. Por otra parte, yo extendería tu aporte diciendo que es válido para toda persona buscando un bienestar – recordar que hay diferentes tipos de prácticas-Para despedirme: Me intriga la reiteración que haces sobre lo de la manipulación(aunque desde mi punto de vista, manipulad@s somos todo@s)

    BogotaShopping in reply to mrosal25 14 hours ago

  • Y aquello de “arma”.Tal vez 500 palabras son muy pocas (que no te limiten, pues la pared es larga) pero aprovechando el intercambio, si te parece bien porque no extender un poco más tu punto de vista, para mayor claridad y de paso -como sugieres-, dejarle herramientas a las personas para que su decisión tenga más puntos de apoyo./// Me esfumo, perdón si hay algún horror en mi ortografía. ^_^

    BogotaShopping in reply to BogotaShopping 14 hours ago

  • Disculpa, te molestaste pero no es mi intención)(En la acepción de inquietud del animo a manos de la curiosidad, es un si. Molestia entendido como enfado, fatiga o fastidio, hasta ahora no, aunque si fruncí el ceño al primer comentario, por la analogía que establece y la inferencia a la que puede conducir. ). Tengo muchos amigos de otras religiones e iglesias, y los respeto. Unos amigos Turcos en forma muy respetuosa se retiran para alabar a Alá, critico es los mensajes subliminales que hay detrás de las imágenes, el gato (gurú hindù), Brahaman (en el caso de la vaca Brahman, vale hacer una distinción: Creo que intentaron  (Dios creador de universo ), el símbolo del Dharma(The last of the Buddhist symbols is the wheel of dharma. It is representative of the natural laws of the universe, and it is what upholds them. In Buddhism, beings who uphold the dharma, or live in alignment with the dharma will achieve enlightenment faster. The concept of a wheel of life or wheel of order is very common in many mythologies.)…Proselitismo religioso soterrado que van al subconsciente (No es más bien el uso de una simbología uqe le pertenece.  Es verdad a todos nos manipulan por eso hay que tomar conciencia en especial de los Iluminatis

    mrosal25 in reply to BogotaShopping 13 hours ago

    Estamos metiendo en un cluster ideas y nociones que si bien pueden usarse como motivo religioso as a standalone// Estoy de acuerdo con que el yoga es una practica espiritual que que se haya dentro de las religiones pero no al contrario… como en el vídeo hacen aluisión más a los aspectos meditativos del yoga/ la falta de contexto da lugar a generalizaciones

    As a system, the type of yoga as put forth by Patanjali, is non-theistic, having not even
    the slightest suggestion of worshipping idols, deities, gurus, or sacred books; but at
    the same time it does not contain any atheistic doctrine either. Although this fact has
    been contested by self interested groups, a careful unbiased study of the Yoga Sutras,
    especially the discussion of what Patanjali means by the word, “isvara”, will prove the
    aforesaid fact as incontestable.

    http://www.integralyogastudio.com/ysp/ysp-alex-bailey-long.pdf

    “In the behavioral sciences, brainwashing is an extremely — repeat extremely — controversial subject,” Ron Enroth, PhD, a professor of sociology at Westmont College in Santa Barbara, Calif., and author of nine books on cults, tells WebMD. “It is impossible to prove scientifically that someone was ‘forced’ by someone else to do something. I am in the minority of scholars on this, but I believe something is going on in these cases. The person’s capacity to make decisions has been impaired.”

    The American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostics and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders does cite “thought reform” as a contributing factor to the type of dissociate disorder applied to cult members.

    Thought reform, or the more scientifically accepted “coercive persuasion,” is defined as the systematic application of psychological and social influence techniques in an organized way, within a managed environment — with the end result of making someone do something that is not in his or her best interests.

    Now, methods of persuasion are arraigned on a continuum, going from education to advertising to propaganda, to indoctrination, to coercive persuasion, or brainwashing. We are all subject to some form of persuasion everyday. When does it become brainwashing?

    http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=52332

    In brief, negative theology is an attempt to achieve unity with the Divine Good through discernment, gaining knowledge of what God is not (apophasis), rather than by describing what God is. The apophatic tradition is often, though not always, allied with the approach of mysticism, which focuses on a spontaneous or cultivated individual experience of the divine reality beyond the realm of ordinary perception, an experience often unmediated by the structures of traditional organized religion or the conditioned role-playing and learned defensive behavior of the outer man.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_theology

    Indoctrination from an early age. It’s a form of child abuse.

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110425163342AAC1LdI

    http://listverse.com/2007/09/15/top-10-cults/

    wow / 27 Jan, 2012 at 11:55 pm

    only because their beliefs are followed by the masses and people are afraid to think for themseves, was everything done by christians. The colonists did not come over for religious freedom. They brought over their own small cult. As the population grew, so did the belief system. They forced others to believe the same (or at least say they did) or they killed them. Of course our country is run by “christian men” who only use the belief to highten their self-esteem and make them look better to the general public. Are you kidding, christianity is they most vague term that could be used for a cult. Has no one paid attention to the running theme of the majority of “awful suicidal/homicidal cults” base their twisted belief system off some type of christianity? Anyone?!? It’s all interpritation, of god, the bible, and heaven because we are to afraid to believe or accept that there may be nothing out there. There may be no reason to be a “good” person, that when someone dies you’re never going to see them again, or that all of the pain and hurt of this world is all there is. Believe what ever’s going to get you through the night, but don’t call other’s ignorant when the proof is in the kool-aid!

    joe smith / 15 Sep, 2007 at 02:01 am

    Shouldn’t christians be in there somewhere? They are a group who believe that a jewish man who lived a couple of thousand years ago was god. They also have adopted as the symbol of their religion a device of torture.

    Alexander Zhurkov / 26 Apr, 2011 at 05:00 am

    apparently you don’t know much about your religions history…
    as a former christian it is obvious most “christians” don’t believe the bible whatsoever. most using excuses like “its metaphorical” or “jesus died so we don’t have to follow those laws” when in reality your book preaches hate bigotry genocide and destruction and has been used for thousands of years to do these things it preaches….

    John / 24 Jul, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    Also, to joe smith: What’s your point about the torture device? We’re not praising the torture device or its use. Jesus died on it, that’s not exactly something good that we wish. It serves as a metaphor for the sacrifice people have to make. Because, you know, treating your enemies as friends is a sacrifice. Giving up possessions to the poor is a sacrifice.

    Sickmind Fraud / 15 Sep, 2007 at 02:40 am

    I actually consider political parties and other similar organizations to be cults. This opens the door for organizations like Hilter’s Nazi Party, Stalin’s Communist party, Bin Laden’s Al Qeada. Torqumeda’s Spanish Inquisition

    All of which leave the organizations listed in the original post as very minor league players.

    You would have to be responsible for hundreds of thousands, if not millions of deaths to qualify.

    Joe rosson / 15 Sep, 2007 at 07:52 pm

    I think it all boils down to people wanting to be accepted and “taken it”, people are forever looking for the reason as to why we are here and will resort to some pretty f’ed up thoughts and deeds to feel they are on the right path.I still go with the age old saying of live and let live. I go to work come home, pay my bills, go out to eat on occasion, enjoy my programs, have some close friends over,love my wife and kids and call it a life.

    The Beautiful Kind / 17 Sep, 2007 at 04:47 am

    All religions are cults – burning bushes? Eating and drinking the flesh and blood of Christ? Thinking doomsday will occur and the good people will ascend to heaven and the sinners (including babies who haven’t been dipped in water) will burn in hell?

    Orthodox Jews religion interferes with their ability to function – on Saturdays they can’t turn on their radio or run their dishwasher – their habits are definitely outside of mainstream.

    And finally, Mormonism. Oh geez and Jehovah’s Witness – they deny themselves medical treatment.

    bethany / 30 Oct, 2010 at 01:51 am

    “actually if you read the bible” I’m sure this woman has, she seems to know her stuff, unlike you. Pre-Industrial revolution, before secularisation had even begun, it was widely believed that children un baptised would burn in hell, so much so, that if a child died before being baptised they would be buried in unmarked graves, next to rapists and murderers. Do you think that’s fair Gary? So actually if you read at all you’d know what this lady’s saying is true.

    Jonathan Norman / 5 Dec, 2010 at 05:18 pm

    Burning Bush- Sign from God that it was Holy ground.
    Eating and drinking the flesh and blood of Christ- You don’t sound uneducated and so I’m sure that you can recognise that it is symbolic and since Jesus said that whilst alive and, presumably, not dismembered, I think that it is safe to say that it fits with all of the symbolism from the OT. As for ‘good people going to heaven and sinners going to hell’, the whole point is that no one is worthy and that through Jesus our relationship with God can be restored. No gain for anyone else. The unbaptised babies argument is null and void.

    ondego / 4 Sep, 2010 at 09:11 am

    All religion is cult. The people of all religions need to believe in a higher being(s) to tell them how to behave & brainwash their children since before they can reason for themselves into believing they must act in certain ways & perform rituals & songs. It’s absurd and these people feel they must live on either through reincarnation or by going to heaven.

    Mystern / 21 Dec, 2007 at 06:40 am

    I’ve never found anything too cultish about either of them, not more than any other religion that is. I think the confusion comes from the lackadaisical attitude of most religions’ doctrine versus the mandatory adherence of strict (nonstandard) doctrine in those two religions. In both SDA and LDS religions there are many hypocritical members who look down upon nonactive/non-practicing members thus leading to much resentment and eventual exodus from the religion.

    I will be the first to admit that there are some odd doctrines in LDS theology (i.e. no coffee/tea/drugs, God having a physical form, living prophets), but no more so than, say, Catholicism (i.e. the Godhead, prayers to saints, forgiveness granted by priests), or SDA (most notably, belief in following the laws of the old and new testaments).
    Yeah, I no longer practice any specific religion but I’d still be wary of putting the LDS and SDA religions into the cult category. The only thing cultish about either of them is the mandatory adherence to strict doctrine. But if you think a mandatory 10% tithe (Mormon) or no activities on Saturday (SDA) is harsh, then you should lump in not eating unclean animals (Jews) and tithes paying clergy (Catholicism, Lutheranism, SDA, dozens of other religions)(Mormons are an exception to this as no Mormon clergyman is paid, not even the prophet).

    God / 25 Dec, 2007 at 04:54 pm

    Ye humans are weird.

    Did I really createth thee?

    Musta’ been busy and y’all just kinda’ snuck in there.

    Will be more careful next time.

    Anya / 26 Dec, 2007 at 01:46 pm

    International Churches of Christ is also a possible contender, having been banned from over 200 college campuses worldwide.

    By the way, ICoC contracted a professor from a Texas university (both the name of the prof and the uni escape me at the moment) to try to prove they aren’t a cult. He set about administering personality tests and concluded that they *are* a cult, largely in part because in most mainstream religions, adherents display diverse personality types. In cults, however, members tend to change their personalities over time until the types all converge into one type – usually that of the cult leader’s. Say what you will about organized religion, but most mainstream religions don’t do the psychological damage that cults do.

    Anya / 3 Jan, 2008 at 10:42 pm

    There are always zealots and extremists who will corrupt a theology or doctrine for their own purposes.

    bassbait / 10 May, 2010 at 02:42 pm

    “Cult pejoratively refers to a group whose beliefs or practices could be, reasonably or unreasonably, considered strange.”

    I’m sorry, is it just that Atheism is the basis for what makes something a cult? You pretty much said “if you believe in religion, you are in a cult”, but by the definition I just took off of wikipedia, Atheism is too. No matter what you believe, you are believing something that someone else considers strange. Atheism occupies only 2.3% of the world, so it is definitely a “cult” by numbers. It doesn’t matter whether or not you consider it strange anymore, because if so, then you would have to put EVERYONE on the list, regardless of what they believe. So what’s the solution? Only include cults based on their “potential to harm”. For example, Scientology, The Manson Family, and Jonestown. Otherwise, it’s just blind criticism of a set of beliefs that people aren’t even willing to try to understand.

    Vodie / 6 Feb, 2008 at 01:35 pm

    Cults are just extreme forms of mass indoctrination.

    Stratus / 14 Mar, 2008 at 07:11 am

    just reading through all the “well if THIS is a CULT, then surely THIS should be one” comments.

    I think people are comparing the broad definition of New Religious Movement with the more specific definition of Destructive Cult.

    Destructive Cults are often incredibly authoritarian, use psychological coercion techniques to control the behaviour of members, employ high secrecy about the inner workings of ‘the organisation’, promise dire consequences for anybody wanting to leave… and are.. well.. destructive – you know.. Charles manson.. not a nice guy.. jim jones – 900 followers dead…

    I think people should be allowed to believe in and give their money to any old weird thing they like – The flying spaghetti monster creating the world with the touch of His Noodly Appendage is no weirder than any of the hundreds of other beliefs in even the most popular and recognised of world religions.. but neither the Church of the Sub Genius nor the Pastafarians meet the criteria for destructive cult. (And in the case of the church of the FSM, they start out by stating their ‘religion’ is satirical protest ;-) )

    h-stratus

    Stratus / 3 Apr, 2008 at 02:38 am

    messiah – I agree.. believe as you like.. but do it within the law..

    Where this starts to get a bit less straight forward is beliefs are in direct conflict with local laws. For example – some cultures believe in arranged marriages and both partners are not always willing – when does this become forced servitude/slavery or rape??

    What of all the religions who talk and teach openly anti-gay beliefs – how loud do they have to get before local hate-crime, or anti-discrimination laws are broken.

    But it’s easy to see how difficult it gets – I’m glad I don’t have to write the laws –

    excult1972 / 16 Jun, 2008 at 08:01 pm

    Great reporting and thoughtful questions. My opinion about cults is that the word has too many meanings which could be applied to any sub-CULTure…

    But, when I think of a destructive cult, what I am thinking of is the groups that 1) use mind control techniques, 2) discourage or limit contact with outsiders and 3) believe themselves to be the ONLY way to heaven or peace or truth, etc.

    ea9 / 27 Aug, 2011 at 06:04 am

    intense fear was constantly being used to keep people attached (eg. such and such has died when they left the church, u wont go to heaven if u dont pay tithe, u will go to hell etc.) and submit to everything the would tell you to do, until your mind was conformed to the UCKG. Bear in mind offerings play a major part and the leader of this church is apparently a billionaire. People THINK and do RESEARCH before you believe or commit yourself to anything. Religion, Church or Organisazion etc.

    rushfan / 21 Jun, 2008 at 10:03 pm

    Did you ever wonder what makes someone so gullible that they can be lured into a cult? I like to think my BS detector is strong enough to keep me out of a situation like these, but think about it, relatively smart people can end up in totally rediculous cults. Is it the alure of being part of something unique and mystical? Or is it a testament to the abilities of the cult leaders? I think it’s a great reason to try to raise free thinking children so they won’t be vulnerable to ***** like this. If you raise kids to never question authority, they’re more vulnerable.

    cris / 28 Aug, 2010 at 03:53 pm

    Actually, your average “cult”-member is usually smarter than your average average person.

    Also, you’re assuming that everyone in a cult necessarily joined it…some people were born into it. Take me for example, I’m a second generation moonie. I’m also a former Valedictorian, a MENSA member, and a successful engineer. “Cult” does not mean what you think it means. All religions were cults at one point or another – “cult” just means a new, small religion. I actually don’t think that Scientology technically still falls under that moniker because they are now quite large (although I do not think them any less weird and dangerous), and Unificationism is borderline…and harmless, I laugh at people who think we’re dangerous – the only real danger is that you’ll visit someone’s house who has a Korean mommy and get a tummy-ache from all that delicious kimchi.

    sdggrant / 7 Jul, 2008 at 01:15 am

    Do you even know what Satanism is, Joseph? It is a belief (religion, as you might call it) that we as human beings should take full advantage of our lives on earth because it is all we have. I am not an official member of the Church of Satan, but I am a firm believer in the words of Anton LaVey, and the Satanic Bible puts to rest all preconceived notions you might have of “Satanism.” I suggest you pick up a copy of the Book and read it before you put down a belief that isn’t nearly as violent or destructive as Christianity.

    sdggrant / 8 Jul, 2008 at 08:25 pm

    “I have termed my thought ‘Satanism’ because it is most stimulating under that name….Satanism means ‘the Opposition’ and epitomizes all symbolsof nonconformity. Satanism calls forth the strong ability to turn a liability into an advantage, to turn alienation into exclusivity. In other words, the reason it’s called Satanism is because it’s fun, it’s accurate, and it’s productive.”
    That was taken straight from the Foreward of the book.

    sdggrant / 9 Jul, 2008 at 01:35 am

    For you, Joseph

    “we have made no grandoise promises of infallible enlightenment and emphasized that each must be his or her own redeemer. The the extent of one’s superiority(if any) is governed by one’s human potential. That “Satan” is a representational concept, accepted by each according to his or her needs. That is the way it was in the beginning, that is the way it is now.”
    “We have defied categorization, confounded labelers, knowing that the one label we bear -Satan- is controversy in itself”

    Straight from an essay written by Anton LaVey. The name of the essay is ‘The Church of Satan, Cosmic Joy Buzzer,” just incase you wanted to check it up yourself.

    Alex / 10 Aug, 2008 at 10:14 am

    You can clearly see the direction of which different cults are heading by seeing the fruits they bear. Murder/suicide, *****ual abuse, *****ual immorality have been a result of these most notorious ones. By getting to know the members of whichever group of people you meet, you will clearly see what kind of lives they live.
    The Unification church, without a doubt in my mind, has made it so very clear that there is only true love between one husband and wife for each other. Premarital ***** or adultery is the most terrible thing to destroy real, true devoted love. And think of the children born from irresponsible *****ual practice. Youth should keep their *****ual purity for the sake of marriage later. I have seen so many Unification members leading a life on these basic, and yet vital morals and principles that strengthen the family. Living for the sake of others, as brothers and sisters under God, no matter what religion or race you’re from, is another.
    The Unification church upholds these morals and ideals. There is nothing wrong with that. Anyone is capable of practicing these morals. It’s those who do and who don’t, in which you can see the difference.
    So I say one should meet the members of a group or cult and see for themselves, by the way of life they lead. Follow your God-given conscience. Also, look at the fruit which it bears. Then you’ll have a better idea of what it is.

    Hunter / 29 Oct, 2008 at 05:53 pm

    . FACTS56
    my answer to your questions
    one: There are few critics to those who carry tools. many people who have knifes use them for every day use or even to make a living. others use knifes and guns for self defense only.
    granted there are those who brandish these items only as weapon and with malicious intent.
    the reason this issue is less pertinent than that of cults is that cult are actively seeking individuals to harm, where as the gun carrier is an individual entity and not a large organized group.

    Bov / 12 Jan, 2009 at 02:05 am

    The saddest thing about this, is one religous group believes the other is a cult and vice versa.

    I would prefer a Cult be a group who lead “their flock” via authority and control. Make people fear that they will die if they leave. That sort of thing.
    The truth is, there are too many groups stating they are the right Church….or at least telling the other Church their faults. By whose authority do they do that? Seriously, both Churches believe they have the authority.

    cris / 28 Aug, 2010 at 04:24 pm

    Cult means religion…so yes all factions of christianity can, in certain context, be considered “cults”. Doesn’t mean anything bad…just means religion….or in other contexts “small religion”. Cult does not mean anything more. Christianity is another way of saying “cult of Jesus Christ”…meaning a religion in which the teachings of Jesus Christ and the artifacts of his life (e.g. the cross, the Bible) are venerated”. Cult did not take on a negative connotation until the fairly recently, when episodes like the Waco disaster were connected with the “cult” of David Koresh – the Branch Davidians. This does not mean anything except that it was a religion that followed the leadership of one, David Koresh. But most people were and still are unfamiliar with the term and assumed the negative connotation. Just because something can be called a cult does not make it inherently dangerous…it all depends on the dangerousness of the cult-leader’s teachings or the dangerousness of interpretations of the object of the cult. For instance, there can be some crazy guy who thinks Christ is telling him to slaughter young women, but that doesn’t mean that Christianity or a veneration of the teachings of Jesus Christ is, in itself, dangerous.

    Beardo / 4 Feb, 2009 at 12:06 pm

    The philosopher Hume made an important contribution to reason when he asserted that if we can’t relate our beliefs to what we have actually experienced with our senses, we have no good reason for believing them. The nature of both cults and religions is that this rule is not adhered to: people must believe as an act of faith, rather than because it makes any reasonable sense. Seeing as we can’t make quantitative judgements about whether any of these beliefs are better than others (because they all require completely unfounded belief) there can’t be a distinction between religions and cults here.

    In my opinion, the only difference between ‘religions’ and ‘cults’, then, is that the beliefs suggested in ‘cults’ are less familiar to our society. We have been so desensitised to the ideas of Jesus, Angels, Reincarnation etc. that we do not realise that they are equally unfounded as ideas of the flying spaghetti monster or that mass suicide is somehow a good idea.

    In short: God? I don’t believe it because I’ve never experienced it. You say you have? I can’t see inside your mind so am sadly confined to the view that you are equally a victim of a cult as others on this list (though obviously without such disastrous consequences!)

    cris / 28 Aug, 2010 at 04:43 pm

    Careful. There are inacurracies, yes, but they are perfectly harmless and pretty usual for ancient texts IMO. Doesn’t take away from their immense power…especially when you take into account all that went into preserving them….the bible is pretty epic.

    John / 1 Mar, 2009 at 03:28 pm

    electronic gizmo’s which are designed to take advantage of your weaknesses whatever they might be by telling you your problems and then what you have to do to fix them which usually means buying their books, enrolling in their courses, attend their seminars. And then of course, if you want your life to have meaning, then you also have to become one of their auditors or recruiters. Sorry Tom. I like your movies but your cult is twisted and dangerous. (I think he dislikes Youtube as does the Headquarters for Scientology.)

    cris / 28 Aug, 2010 at 04:48 pm

    that’s like saying the Pope “controls” any number of Jesuit-run universities. Perhaps true in some context, but kinda arbitrary.

    zack / 22 Mar, 2009 at 12:16 amIt looks like the criteria for judging some of these groups, particularly non-mainstream religions like Mormons, Seventh-Day Adventists, and Jehovah’s Witnesses as “cults” can be boiled down to more or less the following:- Devotion to a leader or leaders whose orders must be followed exactly.
    – Strong adhesion withing the group and exclusion of outsiders.
    – Members are strongly discouraged from leaving the group, and are often ostracized for leaving.
    – Members often follow certain dietary and health codes and wear special clothing.
    – Membership often includes participation in rituals and acts that most “average” people don’t participate in.
    – Cults often form bitter rivalries with other, comparable groups.
    – New converts often must pass through unusual initiation procedures.If this is the case, then I would say that the biggest and most pervasive cults in America today are high school sports and college fraternities.alucard tepes / 30 Mar, 2009 at 11:33 pm

    Will those of you who are saying satanism is a cult try actualy opening your ears and listen for once. There are two groups that are often bundled together satanism and luciferianism. Satanism is the act of self worship and belief aswell as respect in the greater arcana. While luciferians are your run of the mill baby raping, goat sacrificing, devil loving SOB’s you are thinking of.

    cris / 28 Aug, 2010 at 04:54 pm

    The pope is technically a cult leader. Nuns and monks let the Catholic church have complete control over their lives – nuns even ritually marry Jesus, and priests marry the church (Roman Catholic). Does that make any of these players are sick or twisted? No. If the pope told everyone to ritually sacrifice their first-born children by tossing them into flaming pits -THAT would be sick and twisted. Do all cult-leaders say things like that? NO. Do not generalize.

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    *Hell of a ride. Crazy chick as a smile painted on his lips

    She wanted to see that glory moment -you make such a view

    You’re pretty off your rocket, you know…

    That’s why I did what I did

    Ino parada sobre el, en sus minúsculos garments apreciaba his prone body fueled with rage

    De lado, un dedo adentro mientras su mano stroked his pulsating member

    He hid his face in the pillow but the force of the pleasure took over and he couldn’t keep his face hidden, a cry of ploeasure tore thriugh his mouth an he found relese

    He saw her dark desire, -desire to take, to ocuppy, der romper su voluntad de resistir,

    ANyway, if she untied his arms now, he was shure to choke her until she fainted

    Desafortunadamente los humanos tenemos esta tendencia de querer que los demás se ajusten a nuenstro sistema de creencias y más temprano que tarde se sacan las garras

    Definitions

    American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition

    1. n. People claiming to be unusually enlightened with regard to a subject.
    2. n. Any of various groups claiming special religious enlightenment.

    Century Dictionary and Cyclopedia

    1. Eccles., persons who had received baptism, in which ceremony a lighted taper was given to them as a symbol of spiritual enlightenment.
    2. [capitalized] A name given to different religious societies or sects because of their claim to perfection or enlightenment in religious matters. The most noted among them were the Alumbrados (the Enlightened) of Spain in the sixteenth century, an ephemeral society of Belgium and northern France (also calledGuérinets) in the seventeenth century, and an association of mystics in southern France in the eighteenth century, combining the doctrines of Swedenborg with the methods of the freemasons.
    3. [capitalized] See Order of the Illuminati, below.
    4. In general, persons who affect to possess extraordinary knowledge or gifts, whether justly or not; persons who lay claim to superior knowledge in any department: often used satirically.

    GNU Webster’s 1913

    1. n. Literally, those who are enlightened.
    2. n. Persons in the early church who had received baptism; in which ceremony a lighted taper was given them, as a symbol of the spiritual illumination they has received by that sacrament.
    3. n. Members of a sect which sprung up in Spain about the year 1575. Their principal doctrine was, that, by means of prayer, they had attained to so perfect a state as to have no need of ordinances, sacraments, good works, etc.; — called also Alumbrados, Perfectibilists, etc.
    4. n. Members of certain associations in Modern Europe, who combined to promote social reforms, by which they expected to raise men and society to perfection, esp. of one originated in 1776 by Adam Weishaupt, professor of canon law at Ingolstadt, which spread rapidly for a time, but ceased after a few years.
    5. n. An obscure sect of French Familists
    6. n. The Hesychasts, Mystics, and Quietists
    7. n. The Rosicrucians.
    8. n. Any persons who profess special spiritual or intellectual enlightenment.
    9. http://www.wordnik.com/words/illuminati
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